Newest Advertiser on pyrotalk is “Epic Fireworks” United Kingdom

[displayfireworks1]

I am please to announce my newest advertiser on pyrotalk.com is Epic Fireworks from the United Kingdom. Paul tells me they are the biggest and best fireworks shop in the United Kingdom. In addition to selling fireworks, he has a great fireworks blog. I expect to have his banner posted soon in the “Sponsor” section. Until then please visit his website here.
Welcome to pyrotalk.com
Dave displayfireworks1
Epic Fireworks
http://epicfireworks.com/

Epic Fireworks Blog.
http://epicfireworks.com/blog/2012/03/pyro-talk/

Here are some fun videos from Epic Fireworks in the United Kingdom. We can see he also has a sense of humor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrd-rGR73_c
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Happy customer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZOQYjLARm0&feature=relmfu
In the UK they can sell smaller 1.3 items

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP_b7ofbAMU
Epic Fireworks rocket launcher. OK who in United States is going to be the first one to build this thing. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF_WC1bJ0M0&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix2l8bNCU4s&feature=relmfu

[tennpyro1]

We need to build one of those rocket launchers

[EpicFireworks]

Hi all, here's a bit more info on the epic fireworks rocket launcher - http://epicfireworks.com/blog/2011/07/the-epic-fireworks-rocket-launcher-taking-rocket-launching-racks-to-the-nth-degree/

[displayfireworks1]

This gives Scott aka Holmes69 something new to build in addition to his roman candle racks. LOL

[Dart]

Welcome epicfireworks! Do you sell fireworks at the wholesale/case level, or are you strictly retail?

[floridapyro]

I watch these guys videos on you tube. Makes me jealous we cant get that stuff over here.

[EpicFireworks]

Hi All. In the UK we do both retail and wholesale fireworks. Unfortunately we can only supply the UK due to transport rules etc...

We get customers (http://epicfireworks.com/blog/2011/09/the-epic-fireworks-season-2011-has-started/) from all over the UK as we specialise in 1.3g consumer fireworks (basically fireworks with a higher flash content). In the UK you don't need a 'special licence' to use these fireworks. I think the rules in the USA are a little different! I guess we are really really lucky :)

[pyrocrazy]

That would be Awesome if he built one with motor tubes to shoot shells! lol

[flynlr]

Hi All. In the UK we do both retail and wholesale fireworks. Unfortunately we can only supply the UK due to transport rules etc...

We get customers (http://epicfireworks.com/blog/2011/09/the-epic-fireworks-season-2011-has-started/) from all over the UK as we specialise in 1.3g consumer fireworks (basically fireworks with a higher flash content). In the UK you don't need a 'special licence' to use these fireworks. I think the rules in the USA are a little different! I guess we are really really lucky :)
thanks for supporting the site. I will agree that the UK has a bit of the upper hand when it comes to fireworks that go bang. but on things that go bang and send lead at 3200 Fps i think most of the usa is just as free. I love my .50BMG rifle. !

[PyroJoeNEPA]

That is an awesome piece of engineering. I saw a short clip of it a while back on YouTube and was impressed then--even more impressed now with the additional pics & video! How often do you "deploy" this rig?
Thanks for the great video & clips & welcome to the Forum!!!

[J's12talk]

Personally I don't use rockets, they are to unpredictable and then there's the whole stick coming back down thing.

[Pyro Nation]

Personally I don't use rockets, they are to unpredictable and then there's the whole stick coming back down thing.

AMEN to that.. i havent used rockets since 2004... Since one came down and ruined a brand new 12 man tent..lol

[EpicFireworks]

Hi all, thank you for the warm welcome :)
I was going to use the rocket launcher for my Sisters wedding (June 2011) but the weather wasn't great on the night so we didn't go ahead......gutted.
I hope to use it in the next few months and i will post the videos on youtube and on the forum.
We are also working on another contraption, will post pics and videos as soon as i can :)

PS: I wish i had a 50BMG rifle :cool:

[killer57]

instead of rockets i wonder how hard it would be to do candles?

[J's12talk]

instead of rockets i wonder how hard it would be to do candles?

Thats a really good idea.

[EpicFireworks]

instead of rockets i wonder how hard it would be to do candles?

Hmmm, now you got me thinking....leave it with me... :)

[tennpyro1]

All you would have to do is raise the torch up a little higher and probably a little closer as well

[J's12talk]

Hmmm, now you got me thinking....leave it with me... :)

Waiting on the video mate. LOL! Have friends across the pond, great people and country!

[LightningPhil]

I saw a video on youtube with a guy from a UK fireworks company (sorry it wasnt Epic) opening a crate of the new King rockets. They are made by Brothers and the crate is clearly marked 1.4g. So this brings me to the question, Is 1.4g in the UK the same as 1.4g in the US? If it is, then why couldnt we get these massive rockets imported to the US?

[EpicFireworks]

I saw a video on youtube with a guy from a UK fireworks company (sorry it wasnt Epic) opening a crate of the new King rockets. They are made by Brothers and the crate is clearly marked 1.4g. So this brings me to the question, Is 1.4g in the UK the same as 1.4g in the US? If it is, then why couldnt we get these massive rockets imported to the US?

I think there is a big difference between UK 1.4g and US 1.4g (bore size, powder weights, gross weights, type of break charge.........)

[LightningPhil]

I did quite a bit of research (including Epic Fireworks website) on these rockets last night and found that the big ones once were classified 1.4g and may have now been reclassified as 1.3g. When I read that the biggest rockets are allowed to have 200 g of composition my jaw hit the floor. It makes sense that there is so much comp because they are always laid side by side with a 12 oz. Coca Cola can. (some of them make the can look small). I was also interested to find that the way the rockets are sold is in a pyromesh cage. Must be some sort of compromise made so that they can be sold legally in the UK.

[EpicFireworks]

We (Epic Fireworks) have storage and transport for 1.3g fireworks in the UK. Most other firework companies can only store and transport 1.4g fireworks. Certain fireworks are packed in the metal mesh to make the firework 1.4g, but the firework inside is of 1.3g performance. Hope this makes sense.

[displayfireworks1]

Thanks for commenting on the forums Paul, many people in the United Kingdom follow my fireworks videos so it is nice to have you. I see the “Epic Fireworks” name everywhere in the UK pyro world.

I have seen a few of these 1.3 rockets make it into United States and they are nice with a great sound. The mesh packing I bet is the same packing that Kellners Fireworks B.O.S.S system uses here in United States. I tried to find the steel mesh in one of my video but was unable to find it. This new classification of fireworks called Articles of Pyrotechnics here in United States is slowly developing to sell some smaller 1.3 fireworks as “Articles of Pyrotechnics”.
I find it interesting that the United Kingdom would permit these larger rockets because here in United States most people feel that rockets can be very unpredictable in their flight path. Some states in United States allow 1.4 Consumer Fireworks but forbid rockets. Hence the advent of the “Stickless Rocket” cake years ago.

[EpicFireworks]

Thanks for commenting on the forums Paul, many people in the United Kingdom follow my fireworks videos so it is nice to have you. I see the “Epic Fireworks” name everywhere in the UK pyro world.

I have seen a few of these 1.3 rockets make it into United States and they are nice with a great sound. The mesh packing I bet is the same packing that Kellners Fireworks B.O.S.S system uses here in United States. I tried to find the steel mesh in one of my video but was unable to find it. This new classification of fireworks called Articles of Pyrotechnics here in United States is slowly developing to sell some smaller 1.3 fireworks as “Articles of Pyrotechnics”.
I find it interesting that the United Kingdom would permit these larger rockets because here in United States most people feel that rockets can be very unpredictable in their flight path. Some states in United States allow 1.4 Consumer Fireworks but forbid rockets. Hence the advent of the “Stickless Rocket” cake years ago.

That's really interesting...
In the UK (and parts of Europe) you have to do a 'UN6c burn test' to prove that the firework will be classed as 1.4g.
Basically they set the firework carton on fire (the fireworks are meshed inside the carton) and video the burn test from different angles, measuring the distance of projectiles etc.... then submit the video to the UK government. This is very expensive to do! Do you guys have to do something similar to make/class a firework 1.4g?

[Pyro Nation]

That's really interesting...
In the UK (and parts of Europe) you have to do a 'UN6c burn test' to prove that the firework will be classed as 1.4g.
Basically they set the firework carton on fire (the fireworks are meshed inside the carton) and video the burn test from different angles, measuring the distance of projectiles etc.... then submit the video to the UK government. This is very expensive to do! Do you guys have to do something similar to make/class a firework 1.4g?




Here it is based on the amount of powder aloud in a cake... max for a consumer cake is 500gram, a shell is 60g

[displayfireworks1]

At Epic Fireworks United Kingdom

Paul
They do something similar to the testing you describe for the United States category of “Articles of Pyrotechnics”. If you can get a fireworks product to meet the Article of Pyrotechnic classification then it is exempt from all the rules here in the states that apply to 1.3 fireworks. Currently here in United States there are 1.4 consumer fireworks and 1.3 professional fireworks. Then we get into 1.1 items like shells larger than 8 inches or a case of all salutes. However, there are ways to get around it so to speak. If a case of say 72 three-inch salutes has a small percentage of color shells, it can retain its 1.3 classification. If it is all salutes with no color then it is 1.1 classification.
I do not think it is a secret now, the way the Chinese get around all this, is to call a case of salutes a special effects name. I know some of those code names but do not want to say them here to avoid exposure in the industry. Therefore, the case of salutes just is classified as a color shell and retains its 1.3 classification. Word I am getting from anonymous sources in the industry is the ocean freight people that haul all this to United States are tired of the deception. The new move now is for the fireworks industry in United States to police its self. That is why there is a push for an organization called the “American Fireworks Standard Laboratories” to certify 1.3 fireworks as meeting industry standards. I spoke to some people from this organization and will eventually post a video about their mission when I finish my research.
Back to the United States classification of “Articles of Pyrotechnics” at one time articles of pyrotechnics were exactly as it sounds, lance work and accessories to professional fireworks. The regulations in USA say Articles of pyrotechnics are exempt from Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives regulations. To simplify why manufactures did this is for marketing and storage purposes. I will attach one of my videos that may help explain it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik-6sfnd-20&feature=g-all-u&context=G283a844FAAAAAAAAFAA
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Link to American Fireworks Standards Laboratories
http://www.afsl.org/

[EpicFireworks]

Many thanks for this :)

[displayfireworks1]

At Epic Fireworks
Paul
In a prior post you mentioned certain fireworks in the United Kingdom are packaged in a steel mesh cage. Please look at this video below. This is video from Kellners Fireworks here in United States. This is how he receives his “BOSS” Build on site system fireworks. These are 1.4 enhanced fireworks. The salute version is still 1.3 and is supplied in the same steel cage.
I am curious is this the same type of cage packaging you receive in the UK?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWTqp0z5EJU

[EpicFireworks]

Firstly, many many thanks for taking the time to produce the video :)
We have a very very similar style of packaging and we have the thick black straps that you mentioned as well.
Now in the UK we have a 'resealable' style of mesh boxes. By this i mean, a meshed box which can be opened and closed and the fireworks still remain 1.4g in the box, but the firework taken out of the box goes to 1.3g....hope that makes sense.
Thanks again.
Paul