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WithReport
11-27-2020, 04:27 AM
I first heard about MJG from Dave's post years ago : http://www.pyrotalk.com/bulletin/showthread.php?5027-MJG-Technologies-New-Advertiser-to-pyrotalk-com&highlight=initiators

A non-regulated igniter that is good for putting control to consumer or pro items. I use a ton of MJG igniters and my 4th of July shows are still 80-90% consumer, but the timing is controlled by poking specific tubes in cakes for timing and inserting MJG igniters. I'm sure many of you have seen or presented all the information on on these forums on how to use them.

There is a great Black Friday sale going on from a new distributor for Initiators - fireTEK. They have both standard and Quick Plugs at what are the best list prices out there for these igniters. http://https://firetekfiringsystem.com/product-category/igniters/

3ft (80 per box) $38.99
10ft (30 per box) $17.99
15ft (20 per box) $15.99

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For those that have used the initiators, what length(s) do you typically order?

I use a mix of 3ft and 10ft. I try to use 3ft as much as possible for the price/initiator. What are your thoughts or lessons learned with initiator length?

displayfireworks1
11-27-2020, 09:33 AM
Interesting there is not a 6 ft options. I would get the 10ft.

WithReport
11-27-2020, 02:31 PM
Yep, MJP has other options, too. Not sure what the situation is on the sale - but its a nice price.

I try to use the 3ft ones as much as possible - to minimize wires and cost. They are very convenient for single racks with slats, small cake boards, single, etc. This is my preference rather than dealing with all the long wire leads when possible.


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I do use the longer ones when needed, too. You usually can't get that close with 500g cakes.


They also now have blue uncoiled ones, too. These caught me off guard earlier this year.

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What are peoples preferences between the coiled and uncoiled versions?

There is a trick with a poke to very quickly straighten out the coiled versions if you need.

jamisonlm3
11-27-2020, 05:23 PM
I guess I'm so used to 3m wire that 3ft ones are weird to me. I got the 7ft MJGs last year during Cobra's last BF sale. While there was a slight difference in price, to me, it wasn't worth saving the $0.05 or so.

pyroboom
12-03-2020, 04:53 PM
The link does not work.

Also, doesn't another company out there offer a 10% guarantee? So you could even get them 10% lower.

jamisonlm3
12-03-2020, 06:02 PM
The url above is wrong. Here's the working one. https://firetekfiringsystem.com/product-category/igniters/

displayfireworks1
12-03-2020, 08:17 PM
I'm just glad they are both my advertisers. LOL This is very similar to two competing grocery store chains in my area, competing to sell the lowest price turkeys for Thanksgiving and then again with the hams for Christmas. In business, sometimes competition is a good thing. It keeps us all on our toes. Here the advantage is for the you/us the advanced user of fireworks. I am also happy for another one of my advertisers , MJG , the creator of the non-regulated Initiators ( don't say igniter and don't say electric match ). The display fireworks industry has been hit hard this year, i.e multiple companies across United States not buying match or wire and all other ignition type products. At least they have us, the advanced hobbyist user of fireworks.

joewad
12-03-2020, 11:34 PM
I always go long.....period. I would never go below say the second longest wire provided. Unless say for setting up fan slices in these new slice racks I've been seein. I don't shoot any of the 62mm 1.4pro cans, there may be a use for shorter wires there. You'll pay a bit more for the longer wires but it makes field setup much easier for me and distances your items from field modules a bit more.

WithReport
12-04-2020, 12:54 AM
There may not be any right or wrong answer in length - as long is it pops when a you put a voltage across it. I was just curious what other used as an approach.


This past year, I had a dense setup and a number of single shots, these were all 3ft initiators - even found the time to trim some of them (wire strippers were my new friend)

http://www.pyrotalk.com/bulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=5408&stc=1


I also got a bit crazy and had 15 flights of five fanned nishiki shells - call them "PyroBoom fanned e-flights" - longer wires would have just been a waste of wire, since they were trimmed, too.

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In the past, I set everything up in the field separated like a wagon wheel with longer wires. This may have gone too far. It was a bit too much field work. However it worked just fine and there was definitely no issue with burning cakes setting off neighbor cakes.

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This year, I used some boards that could all be setup on a table with a slats (On the 4th I think there were 10 or 12 boards) This allowed for less of a wire mess with shorter wires. And the move onto the field was super quick and easy.

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The boards have been great - fairly easy to re-configure and re-use. The intent of the boards was to also allow easy waterproofing if needed. Here is an example from another shoot. This was wrapped up good (almost looks like a moth's nest). No rain getting in and no ground moisture condensing on the underside. Here were longer quick-plugs wires (it was the only quick plug length I had). I just cut a small slit in the wrap to plug the cable in.

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