New Year quiz

[halk]

Only about 15 brands came out during the brief 4-5 year Class 4 period 1967-71, never to be seen again. How many can you name?

[displayfireworks1]

Is this firecrackers or all Consumer Fireworks?

[Kenny East]

Maybe a couple... San-tee, gorilla, giant panda... Wish I had some in the collection... See them on Facebook from time to time.

[halk]

Yes firecrackers only. Sorry Kenny none of those are correct. Giant Panda has been around a long time and San-Tee made it into Class 5. Hint: at least four of the 15 are known from boxes only.

[displayfireworks1]

Anchor Brand firecrackers?

[joewad]

Zebra, Camel

[wingman]

Stinger, Witch (R&S), Grizzly, Apollo, Big Bear, Golden Dragon

[Kenny East]

Well before my time, mostly a guess... One of these days I'll get more into it. Only have about 50 packs... Most not that old.

[Atl4pyro]

Black hawk?

[dchambers490]

Shot Gun, Giant Panda, Circus, and Black Bat?

[displayfireworks1]

Maybe it's like a game show. We have until next week for the answer

[halk]

One correct so far. Golden Dragon, but of course only the one by Sunshine Firecrackers and Fireworks in Taiwan. Hint: Two other brands by this company are on the group of 15. Witch may be right....will research it.

[halk]

Thanks for mentioning Witch. All I have is a front view of the box, so can't tell if Class 4 or not. Wish I had one! It does look like a R&S brand by Hugh Reid in Bozeman. Looks likely to be Taiwanese.

[wingman]

Thanks for mentioning Witch. All I have is a front view of the box, so can't tell if Class 4 or not. Wish I had one! It does look like a R&S brand by Hugh Reid in Bozeman. Looks likely to be Taiwanese.

Welcome! I want to say there was a Cub or Grizzly Cub brand from R&S as well.

[halk]

Yes both Class 3.

[halk]

No markings on Witch. Perhaps there was an ICC Cautions slip under cello? Likely used it because of the open flap ends.

Score one for Wingman with Golden Dragon by Sunshine F&F......14 to go.

[dchambers490]

How about Black fury by president brand?

[halk]

No, but if we ever had a thread on "exists in Class 5 (1971-1977) only" it would be on my list.
Good try though, you got one word correct

[Atl4pyro]

Colt 44 maybe? Only labels I’ve ever seen say ICC and cautions

[halk]

Colt 44 maybe? Only labels I?ve ever seen say ICC and cautions

You nailed one Atl! I've never seen Colt 44 in C3 or C5 either.

Down to 12 now.

[halk]

OK hint time: There are twice as many "B's" as "A's"

[halk]

Black Mask and Black Fury were submitted, but both are Class 5. Got the first word correct however.

[halk]

A buddy submitted Batman and it is correct unless someone can show a Class 3 or Class 5.
Anyone have a pack or label from Bat Brand? Forgot that one and very similar and would be number 16 if legitimate.
Still three B's to go including two Blacks.

[Atl4pyro]

A run at those 3 remaining Bs:

- The Big 12
- Black widow (not counting “collectors” class 7 reprints from NFA)

[halk]

A run at those 3 remaining Bs:

- The Big 12
- Black widow (not counting ?collectors? class 7 reprints from NFA)

Good going Alt, you forgot the Spider on the Black Widow (sort of hard to see), but I will count it.
You nailed Big 12, so that leaves a single B. Bat was also added to the overall list after owner gave good evidence it was a very short-lived C4 brand.

Down to nine brands now, five of which I could call common, three fairly well known, and one scarce.

[halk]

Next clue......Montana

[halk]

A fellow nailed another one.....Poor Boy. Down to seven now. Hint: stay with the company.

[Airtech]

Black Magic?

[halk]

Very good! Down to six now.
one A, one B, one M, two S's, one V and one W. Hint: since the W only says "firecrackers' the brand is based on maker's name.

[halk]

Sorry. No B's remain.

[Airtech]

Voodoo and Monster and Whale

[Airtech]

Spaniel ++++++

[Airtech]

Space Missile and Space Age

[Airtech]

Apache+++++

[halk]

Great! You nailed Apache, Space Age, and Voodoo. Down to three now. M, S, and W.

[Airtech]

M80++++++++++

[Airtech]

San-tee++++

[Airtech]

Western Boy

[halk]

You nailed M80. Note not the same as M-80x. Good going. Two left. The S is an easy one, but the W is tough.

[halk]

type.... not same as M-80's

[halk]

Final hint: Both the S and the W were made in Taiwan.

[Atl4pyro]

Stumped. Google can’t bail me out.

Searching for more President brands but maybe that’s the wrong rabbit hole...

[halk]

Hint: Look up during daylight hours.

Still looking for a scan of the back of an unopened Witch box. Almost positive it is one of the 'pure' (known in only a single age class) C4 brands, but want to make sure. So please contact any collectors who might have one and relay this request.4310

[halk]

OK time to close the quiz. The two remaining were Sunshine and Wan Kan, named after the Taipei maker. This is the hardest to find (pic). So if I didn't miss any, a complete set of 'pure' (found in no other Class) Class 4 firecrackers would total 17 brands or about four brands per year for the 1968-1971 period.
This has been fun and we should do it for Classes 2 and 3 some day.4454

[RalphieJ]

OK time to close the quiz. The two remaining were Sunshine and Wan Kan, named after the Taipei maker. This is the hardest to find (pic). So if I didn't miss any, a complete set of 'pure' (found in no other Class) Class 4 firecrackers would total 17 brands or about four brands per year for the 1968-1971 period.
This has been fun and we should do it for Classes 2 and 3 some day.4454

Please do!