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WithReport
07-08-2017, 08:57 PM
OK so I have a lot of people to thank on this forum. I only joined this year, but this has been one my go-to site for some time for information on fireworks and firing systems. My 4th of July show was the best in the past 8 years!!! We had about 150 friends and family and I had a big surprise for them.

http://www.pyrotalk.com/bulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=2471&stc=1

I also feel sorry for those in sunny Florida that were dealing with rain. It was amazing here in rainy Washington, we had your sunshine and a moon out to watch the show.

Based on the discussions and videos on this forum, I ponied up for a FireTek system to replace my basic Chinese systems. I have to say it took a while to get all the bugs worked out and the find the right software for scripting, but after dozens of emails back and forth to Laurian at FireTek I got everything up and running. (As others have stated - he must not sleep).

This year I was going to attempt to script it to music. My kids all like Imagine Dragons so I blended a bunch of their songs together along with a tribute to Jimmy Hendrix in Audacity (Audacity was a first, too).

I also used MJG initiators for the whole show, most of them with Martinez quick clips. I was going to do the best music syncronization with talon ignitors, but figured the MJG initiators would get me much better precision. I opened up every cake and set an initiator to the first tube. Two cakes did not go off, but I think they were both due to my fault - in both cases, the initiator had ignited. Since the cakes were in parallel, it really didn't affect the show much.

As mentioned in another post, FedEx lost an order of the vast majority of Mines, Meteors, and Comments from AcePyro - a handful did make it. I took some of the consumer cakes and split them up and refused them so I could control separate sections (again with some help from members here on this post). I think this worked out great. I wanted the fan cakes to fan back and forth from opposite directions and it worked!!! I used this in three places in the show - here are some pictures.

http://www.pyrotalk.com/bulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=2469&stc=1 http://www.pyrotalk.com/bulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=2470&stc=1


After scripting it all, I set up test bulbs (again, this form helped me figure out how to best use the test bulbs). It was a good thing, because I found out that I had one cake near the finale firing too close to another (~20ms) so the system was missing it. With a few tweaks of the script it was all firing.

http://www.pyrotalk.com/bulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=2472&stc=1

Anyways, I hand lit a few mortars and cakes on the 4th waiting for it to get dark enough and then set off a few multi-minute fountains. While those were running I cranked up the PA system hiding behind everyone ARMED the Firetek and set the show off. It all worked flawlessly. I'm still giggling about the whole thing.

For me, This was a big step and I feel like I set the bar a bit too high for next year - We already have 3 other families planning to come out next year.

Let me know what you think. Please listen to the audio with it. I'm open for any comments and criticism to add to the list is appreciated. As I pack everything up for this year I want to get a good list of things to do better next year. Besides, mom and dad will be here next year and I have to really impress mom. :o


The list so far:
1) clean up the ending - get rid of the lingering fireworks - Ahh!!! I was yelling at them to stop.
2) minimize some of the strobes (part of this was because all the stuff that was list by FedEx)
3) Fan out the mortars for the finale a few more degrees
4) Raise the speakers up higher or put them in front of everyone so all can hear well.
5) Add some more precision (single mines, comments meteors, etc.)
6) Better transition through some of the song changes.
7)....

The best news is my wife is now encouraging met to buy another FireTek module or two:cool:.

Here is the link to YouTube:

https://youtu.be/rsQUQ6g-gR0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsQUQ6g-gR0&feature=youtu.be

Pyro Paul
07-08-2017, 09:16 PM
youtube says it's unavailable...

WithReport
07-08-2017, 09:33 PM
Huh??? I'm new to YouTube, too. I think it will work now.

Pyro Paul
07-08-2017, 10:09 PM
Yep fan those mortars out, that was a nice sky puke finale though :D For you're first time I'd say that was not bad at all. Did you have fireballs? Looks like you've got a good list for next year but really that was nice. Especially for not having all the product you intended to have.

WithReport
07-08-2017, 10:56 PM
Yeah, I'm always a bit nervous to fan them out too far when it is dry - I have to shoot up between the trees. They were fanned, but clearly not enough.


Yes, that was an intended sky puke at the end - just like I wanted.

When you get people throwing their arms up in amazement at the finale it is wonderful!!!

http://www.pyrotalk.com/bulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=2473&stc=1


I had the finale racks in parallel - two groups of thirty. fused with two sets of parallel fast visco. About 25% of them on one side didn't go off. After looking at them, I think I forgot to cross-cut the green visco to the shells on one side. I had stayed up ALL night - I'm surprised there wasn't more mistakes.

Pyro Paul
07-09-2017, 12:21 AM
what was the stepper cake you had going off @ 8:24?

chriskrc
07-09-2017, 09:06 AM
That was a nice show, I agree with pyro paul a little more fsn on the tbe mortars would be spectacular.

WithReport
07-09-2017, 09:15 AM
what was the stepper cake you had going off @ 8:24?


Top Gun Bubble Storm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP1sqNnBT1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP1sqNnBT1M)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP1sqNnBT1M

However, I modified this cake and used it at three times: 3:41 (last slices) 8:24 (fist slices), & 8:34 (middle slices). I was quite pleased with the results - I got the effect I was after.

Some of the pictures of the mod are in the first post on this thread. Here are a couple more:

http://www.pyrotalk.com/bulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=2479&stc=1
http://www.pyrotalk.com/bulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=2480&stc=1
http://www.pyrotalk.com/bulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=2481&stc=1

WithReport
07-09-2017, 06:15 PM
Did you have fireballs? .

No fire balls. The cheap camera I had made some of the mines look like fireballs for a moment - but that was just in the video.

I had considered it. I like having a low and high show. I watched a number of videos and read about it on skyliter, but didn't have the time to safely trial it out. I'm looking at joining a club here in WA and I know they have courses on fireballs. So maybe next year.

djsmurf
07-09-2017, 08:33 PM
Not a sky puke fan but if that is what you were going for hat off to ya! Looked great!

WithReport
07-09-2017, 08:51 PM
Not a sky puke fan but if that is what you were going for hat off to ya! Looked great!
Thanks

I was looking for 60 shells as quick as possible with the last two coconut reports lingering at the end. I got it sequenced right, but the cakes we're not fanned out enough and the timing was a bit off.

It still left me smiling

South Carolina Mike
07-24-2017, 08:05 PM
Well done!!

WithReport
08-06-2017, 02:15 AM
I finally had some time to pull all the video off the GoPro and splice the clips together (much better video than the $35 Chinese cameras used for other angles). Here is the link to the "ground zero" video, if anyone is interested.

https://youtu.be/WqNpytKXmHo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqNpytKXmHo&feature=youtu.be

fireTEK
08-09-2017, 01:40 PM
I have to say it took a while to get all the bugs worked out and the find the right software for scripting, but after dozens of emails back and forth to Laurian at FireTek I got everything up and running. (As others have stated - he must not sleep).

We will release soon a new firmware with some improvements and one of it is it possibility to use Pyroigntion to create scripts (including with DMX events) and also used to save it into fireTEK modules. Also we will work on some training videos on how to use the system/software. Other improvements with the new firmware:
- Possibility to save the script into remote with module offline and transfer to the modules before the show
- Possibility to manual fire multiple modules in the same time. More of that all those modules till can be fire individual. This function it is not supported by otehr systems.
- Possibility to jump to the next event
- display the time until next cue to be fired (based on the script saved into remote memory)
- display the total number of the events of that script and module used (based on the script saved into remote memory)
- display the current sequence/total number of sequences and events remaining of the current sequence/total events of that sequence (based on the script saved into remote memory)
- report if a module it is on script but not connected (based on the script saved into remote memory)
- report if a module it needs to be programmed(on the internal memory it has a events to be fired) but it is not (based on the script saved into remote memory)
- some other optimizations

If you have any suggestions to make the firmware better just let me know.



After scripting it all, I set up test bulbs (again, this form helped me figure out how to best use the test bulbs). It was a good thing, because I found out that I had one cake near the finale firing too close to another (~20ms) so the system was missing it. With a few tweaks of the script it was all firing.
fireTEK can fire with a step of 1ms (1/1000th seconds) from different modules and down to 10ms (1/100th seconds) on the same module so as long you will use ematches (not talons) for sure you can fire it with 20ms interval. On the tests that cake was missed by the system because you use bulbs and those ones was considered not fire(the circuit it is nor break). The system checks in real time if the igniter it is fired or not and keep the impulse until it is fired or up to maximum which it is 100ms (or even more if you have a firmware for talons). On the real show that cake for sure will be fired because an ematch will fired in about 5 - 8 ms. You have as I saw our previous hardware with modules and remote version made from plastic and rails without LEDs. Our new modules are made from fiberglass which makes them much stronger and they have internal LI 14.8V rechargeable battery. Also the rails has now speaker connectors made from clear plastic and have LEDs under so you can test without need bulbs.

If you have any suggestions to make the hardware better just let me know.


Nice show after all.

Big Worm
08-09-2017, 05:49 PM
Wow that's really a show to be proud of!!! Great job

WithReport
08-11-2017, 01:52 AM
We will release soon a new firmware with some improvements and one of it is it possibility to use Pyroigntion to create scripts (including with DMX events) and also used to save it into fireTEK modules. Also we will work on some training videos on how to use the system/software. Other improvements......

If you have any suggestions to make the firmware better just let me know.

.....Our new modules are made from fiberglass which makes them much stronger and they have internal LI 14.8V rechargeable battery. Also the rails has now speaker connectors made from clear plastic and have LEDs under so you can test without need bulbs.

If you have any suggestions to make the hardware better just let me know.

Nice show after all.

More information/training on the pyroignition control and the FireTek would be very helpful. Once I got it running it ran wonderfully!!! Thanks for all the support provided just prior to the 4th.

All the other possible improvements you listed sound great.

I'm looking forward to an 48FX module here soon with the new rails.

I sent a PM with a few other details.

Thanks.