Help me identify this vintage firecracker

[KevinAlan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chZC1aCI28c

Help me identify it please i got it from a buddy who found it in an old guys basement and it says made in Macao, and it doesn't have the safety sticker required after 1966. it has a paper fuse and its packed with flash powder. anyone ever seen one, or can help me identify it via websites, or information??

The comments on the Youtube video keep saying for me to blow it up, Which i have no intentions of. Some have said they have identified, but have no sources and/or pictures to back it up. Can anyone help?

[StormY]

Looks like you have a pretty nice item on your hands! I remember seeing something like that, can't recall the name.

[Norwegian-P]

Video of blowing it up? You must be an idiot to shoot it off. Thats a piece of history. Please don't...

[3xh-pt]

it seems a very old piece of fireworks.
Be careful with,and put it never!
I think you a bit of nostalgia in your possession have

[KevinAlan]

Video of blowing it up? You must be an idiot to shoot it off. Thats a piece of history. Please don't...

Don't worry I didn't, I just posted that to try to get the people telling me too do so, to be quiet.

[Norwegian-P]

Oh, OK. Thats good, do you know how much its worth($)?

[GiggleGuyz]

Things like that might be worth a descent sum of money.
It looks to be at least 50 years+ old.

[GiggleGuyz]

I've got some interesting news for you.
Macau (traditional Chinese: 澳門), also spelled Macao, is, along with Hong Kong, one of the two special administrative regions of the People's Republic of China.
It seems your firework comes from the Old Firework Factory called "Hec Long" in Taipa near Macau.

Here's some links to some pictures:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thewamphyri/2799323304/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/anachronist/3275953602/

Interesting stuff, i can't seem to get more information, but the factory appears to have been closed down for quite some time.

I hope this was helpful.
-Giggleguyz

[3xh-pt]

nice found Giggleguyz.
very interesting!

[DsNL]

I'm not sure if this has something to do with it:
http://www.cyberheritage.org/latestpyro/
Some firecrackers that are produced in Macao.
http://malaysiaheritage.blogspot.com/2008/11/macau-firecracker-history.html

The making of firecrackers in Macao:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA5QahZLss0&feature=player_embedded

History of fireworks in Macao:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw6u69qrcwc

I think that dave can help us, i saw a video of him with some fireworks from Macao (not sure though)

[Norwegian-P]

Where did you find/get this firecracker?

[KevinAlan]

Oh, OK. Thats good, do you know how much its worth($)?
Sadly, I do not


I've got some interesting news for you.
Macau (traditional Chinese: 澳門), also spelled Macao, is, along with Hong Kong, one of the two special administrative regions of the People's Republic of China.
It seems your firework comes from the Old Firework Factory called "Hec Long" in Taipa near Macau.

Here's some links to some pictures:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thewamphyri/2799323304/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/anachronist/3275953602/

Interesting stuff, i can't seem to get more information, but the factory appears to have been closed down for quite some time.

I hope this was helpful.
-Giggleguyz

Thanks for the Help, those links were quite informative!


I'm not sure if this has something to do with it:
http://www.cyberheritage.org/latestpyro/
Some firecrackers that are produced in Macao.
http://malaysiaheritage.blogspot.com/2008/11/macau-firecracker-history.html

The making of firecrackers in Macao:

History of fireworks in Macao:

I think that dave can help us, i saw a video of him with some fireworks from Macao (not sure though)

Daves help would be appreciated, I was going to message him on youtube a wile back, but i figured posting here would be more educational to everyone.


Where did you find/get this firecracker?

Well, a friend has a job where he cleans repossessed houses out for resale, and he was moving A refrigerator out of a basement and a few of them rolled off the top of it. He saved one for me, because I always have the biggest fireworks shows around :D. Well long story short they lit off the other 2 in a field pretty loud and powerful, I store mine in my shed for that fact and safety reasons.

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Their are sites for fireworks collectors . Your best bet would be to contact someone on one of those sites .

[xtonyfstsx]

Don't blow it up! D: Piece of history right there! Those videos were interesting!

[pyroman]

Unless you have the label from the pack that cracker came from, there is no way to identify the brand. That same case wrap was probably used on many different brands of crackers

[Forrestanfo]

It is a nice (2 inch?) loop fused old Firecracker. the Red White and Blue, suggests for the American Market. It would go great in a logos collection. Kind of hard to give much information. Probably pre 1966, however, could be until 1970 though I doubt it.

[Prairiepyro]

A common shellwrap on Li & Fung 2" prior to the ICC era. Here is an example on a Korean War era Bull Dog.

[Pyro Nation]

Very cool. Like the image they chose

[Prairiepyro]

FYI for collectors. System has flaws, but may serve as a general guide.

An age sequencing technique for Oriental firecrackers made for the U.S. market based on labeling.

Class 1. Marked made in China, Macau, or Hong Kong and unknown in Class 2 (see below). These predate about 1950.

Class 2. Marked made in Macau. Except for a few new brands issued during this period, this Class can only be applied to brands also known in Class 1. These date from about 1950 to 1953 or the Korean War era when imports from China were banned.

Class 3. Bear the acronym ICC (Interstate Commerce Commission) and marked “Class C Common Fireworks.” Made in Macau or Taiwan. These date from about 1954 when U.S. laws mandated reduced cracker length to about 1967 when new federal laws prohibited retail sales of fireworks containing more than 2 grains of flashpowder.

Class 4. Bear the ICC acronym and marked “Class C Common Fireworks.” Labels from crackers 1 ½ inches or shorter bear "Caution-Explosive" warnings. Longer crackers usually bear no I.C.C or Class C Common Fireworks, but have "Danger-Explosive" or "Danger Use With Caution” warnings as required for Class B Display fireworks. A few with the ICC acronym bear the latter warnings. Made in Macau or Taiwan. These date from about 1968 to 1971 when many trade restrictions with China were abolished and the Interstate Commerce Commission ceased to regulate the transport of fireworks and other goods.

Class 5. Bear the acronym DOT (Department of Transportation) and marked “Class C Common Fireworks” and "Caution-Explosive" Made in China, Macau, Taiwan or Singapore. These date from about 1972 to 1977 when federal regulators reduced the maximum powder content from 2 grains to 50 milligrams.

Sequencing Subclasses:
5a Made in Macau, Singapore, or Taiwan
5b Made in China; processed, repackaged, reprocessed, or agents in Macau or Hong Kong
5c Made in China

Class 6. Bear the DOT acronym and marked marked “Class C Common Fireworks,” “Caution-Explosive,” or “Warning-Explosive” and with various powder content indicators including the actual legal "50 mg." But powder content often only suggested by verbal phrases such as "maximum load," "maximum blast," "maximum charged," "maximum power," "mountainman sized," "Chinese-type super," “X-tra big'uns,""new supercharged," "improved new" etc. Made in China or Macau. These date from about 1978 to 1993 when the federal regulators adopted the United Nations classification for transport of fireworks.

Sequencing Subclasses:
6a DOT Caution. Made in Macau
6b DOT. Caution. Made in China; repacked, repackaged or reprocessed in Macau or ong Kong
6c DOT. Caution. Made in China
6d DOT. Warning. Made in China

Class 7. Bear the acronym UN (United Nations) and codes 0336 1.4G or portions thereof and marked “Consumer Fireworks” and “Caution-Explosive” or “Warning-Explosive.” Made in China. These postdate 1993.

Sequencing Subclasses:
7a Caution
7b Warning
7c Warning and barcoded (sometimes only brick labels barcoded).

[thechemist45]

Okay I will tell you exactly what that is %100 no doubt being a avid collecter myself.That was made in Macau in 1964. That is a American Buffalo Salute They came in boxes of 50 The loop fuse was to gurantee that you would not get a dud. However lots of people use them and hung them on a long string of fuse as a way of getting a rapid fir affect. Those were At the 2009 Pgi convention in mason city Iowa. They were in a case being sold for two for 25.00 or one for 15.00 They have about 3/4 of a gram in them there pretty good salutes. I have many of them sealed from the Buffalo salutes to the warrior Brand And even Halco they are all 50 to a box And the same size 2x1/2 If your not a collecter and just have that one either save it. Or if you want to light it. Let a punk sit on top on it as those old fuses can go quick & they have a sufficient amount of powder to hurt you. Just save it add it to your other obscure crackers.

[BJV1]

thechemist45,
I wish you would not take photo's from other sites and claim
they are your photos.

BJV1

[Pyro Nation]

what photos are u refering too BJV1

[indianahx]

yes, please do tell....

[BJV1]

In his photo album he has this photo
which I posted on pyrobin a year ago or so.
http://www.pyrobin.com/files/salutes2.jpg
BJV1

[Pyro@Mach13]

Don't hold in your hand after lighting - nice obvious warning! 8-)