Kellner's 2014 Pricing - 1.3

[algrant1]

I saw that Kellner's have recently updated their 1.3 pricing for 2014. They have increased prices anywhere from 15% to 55% per case for just about every product. I understand that costs change for the products, shipping, insurance, utilities, etc. but I am shocked with the extreme price increases.

Lynch just posted their 2014 pricing. Compaired to 2013, I would say 50% of their items stayed at the same price, a couple dropped, and the rest increased no more than 5%.

What do you think of these increases? Has the quality of the product increased justifying the additional costs?

[PhilK33]

I just checked their website last night and was also shocked to see the increased prices, decreased inventory and no sale of individual items of their 1.3 line. I am hoping this is a typo or mistake lol! If not my shows wont be nearly as big!

[PyroManiacs]

I just checked it out myself..... Wow!

[jknepp1954]

Whether 1.3 or 1.4 - you all could expect a 5 to 10% increase. But i agree - 55% increase???
WOW
As far as not doing individual pieces - it is a booking nightmare to keep track that way - so you all were spoiled to be able to do pieces - now you will have to commit to cases. Suck it up i guess - and decide your shows more carefully...

[PhilK33]

I thought of and definitely understand the nightmare of having individual (unit) sales! I would understand and deal with 5-10% increase but some prices ive seen have made my eyes pop

[jknepp1954]

I just notice something else too - Kellners use to do a 1-5 cs price, then a lower price for 5+ cs. But i have been out of the 1.3 loop too long - when did he change to a % off discount program? Was it that same way last year too?

[rppyro]

Kellners has a 1.3 discount similar to their 1.4 discount structure, but it is still hard to imagine why the prices are so much higher.

[PhilK33]

Wonder how lynch can keep his prices about the same across the board..

[PhilK33]

For everybody on this thread, I am new to this and just received my type 54 in Jan 2014 with one show under my belt! I thought kellners 2013 price list was pretty darn good, but like I said I am new to 1.3g so I don't really know much yet about what items usually cost what

[algrant1]

Last year their discount was if you bought 10 cases of one item you got 10% off of those cases. They eliminated that promo. Also i based the increases on case purchase only.

Kellners use to have very good prices for average quality product. Now i am not sure.

Since Kellners is an advertiser for PyroTalk, Dave might have an idea on the increased prices.

[displayfireworks1]

I never discuss prices of fireworks with my advertisers, that is entirely up to them. I would advise waiting until we get closer to the demo in April to see what the final prices will be.

[PhilK33]

So there could possibly be changes or adjustments in 2014 prices?

[pyromaniac]

Since Kellners is an advertiser for PyroTalk, Dave might have an idea on the increased prices. Last time I looked, Kellners is no longer a sponsor of PT! I don't see their banner anymore on the sponsors page or at the top.

[displayfireworks1]

Kellner Fireworks is still a sponsor on pyrotalk, my webmaster prematurely removed their current banner, we are waiting for the new one. I expect the new one will announce the demo. There is lots of fireworks related website activity this time of year as we prepare for the fireworks season in United States.
I am also looking to add more advertisers on pyrotalk. To anyone out there reading this in a fireworks related business please drop me an email for a confidential response to your advertising inquiry.

[jknepp1954]

back to the OP's question - after relooking at Kellners pricing, and digging into my old pricing list of 2005 and 2006, and considering the overall pricing increases in general in the past 8 years or so - not all that out of line - comparably speaking. shipping of 1.3 containers at that time was around 8k/9k to the east coast, now 15k or more.
price of gas is more now than then - need i say more?

[PhilK33]

I see Kellner's have now added the option to buy individual pieces on most of their items again!

[PGH_Pyro]

ouch !:eek:



back to the OP's question - after relooking at Kellners pricing, and digging into my old pricing list of 2005 and 2006, and considering the overall pricing increases in general in the past 8 years or so - not all that out of line - comparably speaking. shipping of 1.3 containers at that time was around 8k/9k to the east coast, now 15k or more.
price of gas is more now than then - need i say more?