1.3 Backyard Display on a Lake - New Hampshire

[Waymon3x6]

Guys,

Just watched Dave's video of his firework display on a lake. Looked like he was using some 1.3 product. Just wondering if anyone knew of the restrictions to shoot 1.3 product in New Hampshire - specifically in the Lake Winnipesaukee region.

About to send in the application for my 1.3 license; been working with a pyrotechnic company and have done well over 10 shows. I want to have a show for July 4 and include some 1.3 product (2"-4" shells) fired from my floating dock in our cove. Just wondering if its possible or if it would be too much of a headache.

Thanks

[displayfireworks1]

Lake Winnipesauke looks like a great place to shoot fireworks. I bet every July 4th there are fireworks everywhere.
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[Waymon3x6]

Thanks for the reply Dave.

Lake Winnipesaukee is the perfect place. Not to mention 1.4 is legal in NH so everyone has firework shows. There are a few professional shows too, but they're rather far (about a 1 hour boat ride from our house) and they start at midnight which is pretty obscure.

Does anyone know what the regulations are for putting on your own 1.3 show in NH?

[Northern Sky]

I don't know about regulations for this specific area but when shooting on navigable waters the authorities of that waterway will needed to be included. In many areas 90 days notice is needed.

[Dart]

To my knowledge there is no such thing as backyard 1.3 in NH. You need a shooters license, permit and insurance. NH PERMISSIBLE fireworks laws/rules/regulations are town by town.

[displayfireworks1]

Here is a link I found for New Hampshire. If you read further into the links you will see some of it is expired in 2003 and 2009 etc.

http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/firesafety/special-operations/fireworks/fireworkscertificates.html
I will tell you to get the ATF license, most of these state laws are outdated or pertain to someone in business conducting displays. I really do not know if they pertain to you or not. From what I know about these lake resorts on major holidays they are full of people shooting fireworks, as long as you are conducting yourself properly you most likely will not have any trouble. Remember if you are shooting display fireworks and the police show up you are at least a properly (ATF) licensed individual.
I hear from people I help get the ATF license all the time. a recent example the "Person" shot a display on a private farm property using up to six inch shells. The display did not have a permit, the police showed up because such a thing was unusual in the area. The person showed his ATF license and the police told them next time they need a permit. Sometimes if you wait for everyone to give you permission to shoot fireworks you may never shoot fireworks. Using this lake example if consumer fireworks are legal or at least tolerated, I think you could easily add some small 1.3 cakes and Thunder Kings in the finale. If you start shooting six inch shells on this lake you will draw too much attention to yourself. It is hard to type all of what I am trying to say but I believe you understand some of my point.
I keep looking to see if a private not in commerce ATF fireworks license holder is cited for shooting fireworks without a state certification in any state and I can never find one. While in theory a state could site you, I have failed to see in any state of United States. Since 2003 the ATF fireworks license is necessary. If someone knows of an example please post it.

[Dart]

http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/firesafety/special-operations/fireworks/index.html

[Northern Sky]

http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/firesafety/special-operations/fireworks/index.html

That is a good reference.

[tntrealty1]

Having worked closely with the NH fire marshal on several professional town/city shows they require you follow state and federal regulations. At the very least you'll need your type 54, state technicians license, and site permit (shoot site) approval. This is just for your own private (hobbyist) show. Everything changes if you are advertising this event or charging admission (commerce) etc...
My advice is to contact the state fire Marshall's office and tell them exactly what you want to do and they will tell you what's required rather than getting multiple answers of this site. Not saying the correct answer wont come from this site but many times these states & towns are not on the same page so the requirements can be different (more or less) from town to town.

[Waymon3x6]

Thanks for the help guys. Dave, I appreciate your insight - makes me less worried. We are right on the lake and would shoot from a raft similar to your video I referenced earlier. Cakes, 1.4 product and maybe up to 4 inch shells.

Looks like I'll call up the fire marshal and see what they say, but at least I know what to expect now. Thanks again guys, I'll post back what I hear in case any one else gets stuck in this situation.