New Material Replacing Paper Tubes for Cakes...

[PyroManiacs]

So I seen someone post this picture on my facebook.

Anyone know anything about what type of material this is?

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/KillaNinjaChuklz/7291_258465560962043_1756248656_n_zpsd8307ec3.jpg

[displayfireworks1]

A forums member did a video about these. I do not see this being a new way to do things but you never know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4H2fAJEkLc

[PyroManiacs]

Thanks a bunch, Dave.

[cynthiafireworks]

I heard about that but in reality, few manufacturers and consumers like this kind of material for its pollution to environment and insoluable character or something else. Anyway, it's kind of problem like hard to be dealt with after use.

[cynthiafireworks]

But I would like to know what exactly that is?

[displayfireworks1]

I am going to the fireworks convention starting tomorrow. If anyone reading this has a fireworks product made out of this material please see me at the convention. If I can find someone that has it, I will examine it with the video camera and we will see what it is made of.

[PYRO321]

Interesting this could make some cake's more stable, look's like could be a good idea.

[PyroManiacs]

Interesting this could make some cake's more stable, look's like could be a good idea.

In the video Dave posted about it.... The dude says that they are a lot heavier, which in turn is going to cost more.

[cynthiafireworks]

Dave, actually a few of the manufactuers in Liuyang are using this kind of material like Yihelong, but most feedbacks are not so good, this kind of material are hard to be disposed and unrecycable. I will be awaiting for your research result soon...
I am going to the fireworks convention starting tomorrow. If anyone reading this has a fireworks product made out of this material please see me at the convention. If I can find someone that has it, I will examine it with the video camera and we will see what it is made of.

[RunBang]

hmmmm i think they uses that because it can be press with a machine, for less manufacturing cost. but much heavier and unrecycable. pffff it's not a good way

[chris v]

I have seen this type of cake base before and there two variants one is a bentinite clay type and a particle wood type the same as a particle board

[PyroManiacs]

Yea, I cant see it being a new way.... Even though it may cut down on manufacturing cost... its going to cost more to export due to weight issues.

I would think neither the Importer nor the Exporter, would want to pay the extra shipping cost.

[chris v]

As long as the size to weight ratio can be balanced shipping would not change as a rule of thumb its really not the weight that effects price its the " the more room it takes up the more it cost " most 40' shipping containers are able to hold somewhere around 80,000 pounds

[PyroManiacs]

Good info, thanks Chris.

[chris v]

Your Welcome pyro

[chris v]

My boss has his ATF license and he has had it for somewhere around 13 yrs he comes to me for answers to his pyro questions helped stop his problem with his jumping on the shows and we are the only display company in the state that the fire marshal will allow to fire mortars from a trailer

[PyroManiacs]

Funny you say that about your boss. Theres a lot of things I have said to mine, and he was like, "Oh really?, I didnt know that." lol.

[chris v]

Lol yea he's very smart about the pyrotechnics part of it I'm more in the how stuff works part I actually repair any shells that screw up ex. Fuse pulled out or lift falls out whatever is needed to get that shell up when its suppose to OS what I do

[chris v]

That's why we have a good working relationship is that we both learn from each other we had a brand of 4" shells come in I believe they were jx4 they came with mid fuse adapters a male female tubes in the middle of the quick match as soon as we saw the we knew there was gonna be a problem had 4 shells not go up Dave has a video up that shows a brand that has the same thing I think was a graduation shoot look on the videos the adapters were for ematch hook up

[PyroManiacs]

Ill have to go back and look for that vid and check it out again.

[PuroJon]

I hate the idea of not being able to refuse the tubes individually as you need. The fuse lines in the video are glued to the base which seems good for safety and reliability, but a pain to 'mess with'.

[chris v]

Yea I would rather just buy the paper tubes and just make my own cake