Painful looking setup

[displayfireworks1]

I am not sure what fireworks company this is but look what a pain this setup must have been with that big sand pit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wcvfhzwD8M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuazT0zlmQs
http://sites.gotparks.com/temeculaparks/images/l_1277238357.jpg
http://pix.epodunk.com/locatorMaps/ca/CA_10967.gif
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/tuazT0zlmQs/maxresdefault.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TabujEYJjs0

[cracker]

lol whenever the word "shovel" is involved count me out! Maybe they could recruit some weekend warriors from the local pokey to do the shoveling? That would be good.

I'm not sure who shot that show, but I'll ask around. Should also bring this guy into the conversation. He does a lot of shows in Southern California, and he also recently teamed up with Pyrospectaculars, the same company I work under.

[PYRO321]

Those are some hell of a workers.

[PyroManiacs]

Count me OUT!! hahah

[killer57]

lol whenever the word "shovel" is involved count me out! Maybe they could recruit some weekend warriors from the local pokey to do the shoveling? That would be good.

I'm not sure who shot that show, but I'll ask around. Should also bring this guy into the conversation. He does a lot of shows in Southern California, and he also recently teamed up with Pyrospectaculars, the same company I work under.

what is this shovel thing your talking about? :confused: same here, that looks like way too much work for me!

[displayfireworks1]

Years ago I did a fireworks display in Toledo Ohio, before we left the lead shooter opened the truck and said something like “oh no sand boxes”. I was not sure what that meant at the time. When that display was over I knew all about it. I the Toledo Ohio case I know these display companies have so many shows they run out of rack, more and more as the years go by reloading is frowned upon. Thus, they move into these sand boxes and placing mortars directly into the sand. Before computerized displays sand boxes we used all the time and you had to follow a instruction sheet how to set the pipe to correspond to the pin-board. Some locations make you bury the entire racks in the ground. I heard Cedar Point amusement park may be one of them.
This may be a picture here of burying the entire rack
http://seattletimes.com/ABPub/2008/07/03/2008032796.jpg
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/pZnFZx6utSU/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.pyroinnovations.com/images/filling_mortar_boxes.jpg
http://brainlog.coryzipperle.com/Spirit-of-Kansas-2012/Show-Prep.thumb/lake-shawnee-spirit-of-kansas-2012-fireworks-prep-32.jpg
http://www.pyroinnovations.com/PyroPics/2005_cakes_mortars_w.jpg
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/cms/binary/3302788.jpg?size=620x400s

[PyroManiacs]

That just seems like too much work for the purpose.

Unless of course you up-charge the hell out of the customer for the extra work. :)

[SCPyrotechnician]

That is just ridiculous.

[Glasscitypyro]

I have seen and worked with companies will put the mortars ingarbage cans filled with sand or on barges that have dumpsters filled with sand and bury mortars in them. only with larger 8'' to 12'' tubes though never really needed or had to bury anything else must be some safety regulation that town or city has for fireworks.

[Engalwood]

wow, that is a lot of work glad id never have to do that much lol are I hope I should never have to. Id just go get the bobcat and try and make it a little easier hahaha

[smilli]

I don't see what you guys are complaining about, you get a workout and a nice show haha!
No but seriously, maybe for the large cylinder shells it can come in handy but what u see is to much.

[PuroJon]

If you use steel mortars, I believe the NFPA code (2.3.8) makes burying the tubes required and is mandatory for steel single-shot mortars. There are municipalities who require a trough for mortars, it can be rather common. Here is one handy link to a set of local codes in Missouri:

http://www.dfs.dps.mo.gov/programs/fireworks/fireworks-display-inspection-guide.asp

Burying a large diameter mortar in sand or dirt is the safest installation you can have. The tubes are buried 2/3's to 3/4's of their height and when you think about it, it makes total sense. Ever seen a 8"-12" round flowerpot in a tube? Ever thought about what happens when a steel mortar explodes? How about in an above-ground rack of 12" guns? I don't think its 'ridiculous' at all.

Ease of installation is not a factor to the NFPA code, nor should it be. To me its all about safety and accepted professional standards. The amount of sweat and toil required to prepare a safe shoot site just ain't a valid factor.

[supermofunk8]

$160 a day for the bodcat where i am an thats what i would have used

[Engalwood]

If you use steel mortars, I believe the NFPA code (2.3.8) makes burying the tubes required and is mandatory for steel single-shot mortars. There are municipalities who require a trough for mortars, it can be rather common. Here is one handy link to a set of local codes in Missouri:

http://www.dfs.dps.mo.gov/programs/fireworks/fireworks-display-inspection-guide.asp

Burying a large diameter mortar in sand or dirt is the safest installation you can have. The tubes are buried 2/3's to 3/4's of their height and when you think about it, it makes total sense. Ever seen a 8"-12" round flowerpot in a tube? Ever thought about what happens when a steel mortar explodes? How about in an above-ground rack of 12" guns? I don't think its 'ridiculous' at all.

Ease of installation is not a factor to the NFPA code, nor should it be. To me its all about safety and accepted professional standards. The amount of sweat and toil required to prepare a safe shoot site just ain't a valid factor.



That is true! Safety should never be put on the back burner!