View Full Version : "Consumer Fireworks LIKES & DISLIKES"
CafreakinBOOM
07-30-2013, 02:49 PM
This is to see what Fireworks YOU LIKE or DON'T LIKE.
If you have a vid of the product please post.
This: I DON'T LIKE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcS_BzvJUbE
Please Enjoy and Comment & post a VIDEO of a Firework that you LIKE or DISLIKE.
Thank You.
PyroManiacs
07-30-2013, 03:50 PM
Ok, I have seen the AFW - Sun Shower video from WFBoom, and was kind of skeptical about this cake... but after finding this video Im posting... I will definitely look into getting a case of these on a future purchase. These effects are real nice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Bqykv4HoM
CafreakinBOOM
07-30-2013, 04:42 PM
This: I do LIKE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPupW2S7qKo
CafreakinBOOM
07-30-2013, 07:30 PM
This: I LIKE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-JhpuWvb5U
Phaedrus
07-30-2013, 08:50 PM
I LIKE this one, double break cake!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=586va675PmQ
PyroManiacs
07-30-2013, 11:17 PM
Blast Furnace is a good cake!! You should like the "Dual Weilding" also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtFRg4yUSaY
cynthiafireworks
07-30-2013, 11:21 PM
Hi, CafreakinBOOM, I think you're not only just a fan to fireworks but a very professional I think. hahaha...
The size of the ball is much smaller than what it's claimed in the label. It might be 54mm I think. That's very commom in your market for the accetpable price and its real effects. Besides that, I think this cake with shells is well made and labeled, at least in the apprearance, well placed , quite stable in the base and with appropriate distance for each shot, ( is this from Brothers?) Though I can also understand why you think it's a big scam.
Actually the products for US market, should be comform strictly to the AFSL standard, that requires the total chemical composition of the cake should be less than 500 grams and each of that in one shot's is less than 52gram, considering your costs for that, it's of the medium cost performance I think.
I am not so good as you in professional knowledge, but I am so glad you made me know your thoughts of that and share your good skill of it, thank you !
:)
cynthiafireworks
07-30-2013, 11:27 PM
I think the effects of this cake you showed secondly is comparatively plain. I guess the size of tubes are from 0.8" to 1.0", or even smaller. Am I right? I hope you'll find more exciting ones....
cynthiafireworks
07-30-2013, 11:33 PM
This effects are fabulously great! I love it! At least it's better than what our factory can make.
Would you mind telling me does it shoots artillery shells or just double inner tubes inside ? How big is the tubes? 1.5" or 2"? It's really amazing!
I LIKE this one, double break cake!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=586va675PmQ
PyroManiacs
07-30-2013, 11:50 PM
That first video was a 3" 9 shot cake in the 500 Gram category. We have a thing in the U.S. called "False Advertisement" .
They are blatantly saying its a 3" shell, when its not. This is called false advertisement, and the cost for these cakes is ridiculous.
We like to buy our product for what it is and for quality. For instance, I will never buy a 9OAB. They are way too much. I can buy a case of canister shells for less money and have it perform the same way.
The second one he posted was a 350 Gram. Cant really compare a 350Gram to a 500Gram.
cynthiafireworks
07-31-2013, 03:02 AM
As an end consumer, I totally agree with and understand your concern. Maybe the dealers in USA have their own considerations and the manufacturer in China just do as what they requested in the orders. If you have a chance to be in China, I will show you an authentic 3" cake or else you want... :)
For the second, I am not comparing it with a 500G one, just comparing with a same category. :-P
Phaedrus
07-31-2013, 11:57 AM
Ya the effects are really nice on that one. I'll try and answer your questions the best I can. I believe it shoots a "peanut" type shell so it's a single tube that has a double break shell. I also believe it's a 1.75" tube. I hope that helps.
Phaedrus
07-31-2013, 11:59 AM
I'm a big fan of Z or fan style cakes right now and this is one of the best ones I have seen. No breaks at all but the back and forth effect is pretty awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yomekd7rwEc
PyroManiacs
07-31-2013, 12:38 PM
Ya the effects are really nice on that one. I'll try and answer your questions the best I can. I believe it shoots a "peanut" type shell so it's a single tube that has a double break shell. I also believe it's a 1.75" tube. I hope that helps.
Yes, most likely peanut shells. And even if it is a 2" shell/tube - It still is only going to have the max composition for the consumer grade.
They should probably look like this packed in the tube:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/KillaNinjaChuklz/Double_Shell_Fireworks_Fireworks_bombsjpg_220x220_ zpsdb614e02.jpg
If you have a chance to be in China, I will show you an authentic 3" cake or else you want... :)
I have not used an authentic 3" cake yet, but I have used an authentic 2.5" cake with the pro company I work for. I would love to see an authentic 3" cake in person!
If you skip to 2:37, that is the 25 shot 2.5" Brocade Crown we used.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXqF-XumCiY
Wholesale Fireworks
07-31-2013, 03:43 PM
Pyromaniac1981....I know what you are saying in regards to the 3" tubes on a 9OAB. That is why we have made all of our cakes smaller. This allows us to save space on containers as well as WASTE less paper. There is always some type of waste, but by making the tubes actual size to match the shell size we eliminate a lot of paper and we have less of an impact on the environment. The shells in our old cakes were 3" shells but they were a shell within a shell. By eliminating the outer shell, we were able save even more wasted paper. This also allowed us to keep the items affordable, and pass the saving onto out customers. You can see all of our 9 shot cakes at www.wfboom.com Be sure to check out Blast Radius while you are there. I think you will like it as well.
CafreakinBOOM
07-31-2013, 05:53 PM
As an end consumer, I totally agree with and understand your concern. Maybe the dealers in USA have their own considerations and the manufacturer in China just do as what they requested in the orders. If you have a chance to be in China, I will show you an authentic 3" cake or else you want... :)
For the second, I am not comparing it with a 500G one, just comparing with a same category. :-P
Well CYNTHYAFIREWORKS I believe that BROTHERS brand Fireworks is a owned by somebody in China. (not quite sure):p
However those fake 3'' shells say "MAID IN CHINA"
Regarding The "Black Moon Rising" cake that's just 300 gram cake. Worth $15. dollars. a good deal for a salute cake. Almost like a 25 shot TK. in the 1.3 class not readily available for the consumer.
:o I do agree with CYNTHYAFIREWORKS that they have to meet certain requirements to keep a Fireworks Cake stable...
In this next video we have a Firework that is not going to tip over, " Its very stable ".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-9xgo8mmlY
I just wish I did not have to pay for the PRETTY SNEAKY BAG OF ROCKS.
I LOVE FIREWORKS and I hope to visit China one day and Light some of those Big beautifull fireworks you mention.
PyroManiacs
07-31-2013, 06:46 PM
Pyromaniac1981....I know what you are saying in regards to the 3" tubes on a 9OAB. That is why we have made all of our cakes smaller. This allows us to save space on containers as well as WASTE less paper. There is always some type of waste, but by making the tubes actual size to match the shell size we eliminate a lot of paper and we have less of an impact on the environment. The shells in our old cakes were 3" shells but they were a shell within a shell. By eliminating the outer shell, we were able save even more wasted paper. This also allowed us to keep the items affordable, and pass the saving onto out customers. You can see all of our 9 shot cakes at www.wfboom.com Be sure to check out Blast Radius while you are there. I think you will like it as well.
I have noticed that there are no cakes stating that they are 3" within the AFW/Glorious brands. Most of my experience has only been with these brands by the way.
I really love most of these items too.
One thing I should have made clear about not purchasing a 9OAB.... I would not purchase any that states it as being a 3".
What? You have videos? :) :) lol
I think I must have watched every video on your website probably about 25 times each over the years, haha.
I have had the Blast Radius.. awesome cake.
I currently have but did not light yet.....
Challenger case
Grenadier case
Power 10 Asst. - I did have a case of Arctic Thunder which Im guessing is almost the same as the power 10. Also a good cake
Power 9 Asst.
Power 8 Asst.
12 shot Asst.
Just have not had time to use them.
CafreakinBOOM
07-31-2013, 08:50 PM
HI Pyromaniac1981 Hey do you prefer sound over display effect or do they go hand in hand? Do you have a Favorite consumer Cake?
I am already looking for that Special 4th of July Cake. I don't know if we have WFBOOM here on the West Coast, If I come across one of those cakes you mentioned
it will be going in my basket. We have BOOMCITY in Marysville WA. ( a swap-meet of over 500 Fireworks Vendors). I guess we are not Lucky enough to have a WFBOOM.
Maybe WFBOOM should build a NEW FIREWORKS WAREHOUSE next the NEW WALMART going up. :D
" I have like 14 more CONSUMER FIREWORKS I DISLIKE Videos " for CYNTHYAFIREWORKS :confused::o
" I also have a few of My Favorites That I do like " I just cant find the Video to post it on here.
Well one of them is a Girandola cake by MEAN MONKEY Brand. Its called Up something....... cant remember... Maybe CYNTHYAFIREWORKS can find it?
http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y498/fishfireworks/bth_UY3_zps2615db69.jpg?t=1371850811
http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y498/fishfireworks/bth_UY2_zps231b789e.jpg?t=1371850790
as you can see from the picture it has 2 girandolas and 14 comets
Please Comment and Enjoy.:eek:
cynthiafireworks
08-01-2013, 12:10 AM
I guess what the pictures showed is a small sized multi-shot cake(0.8“?) with a toy UFO, which can spin and fly into the sky with lights and whistling....It's an creative design, trust kids love this more than adults....
HI Pyromaniac1981 Hey do you prefer sound over display effect or do they go hand in hand? Do you have a Favorite consumer Cake?
I am already looking for that Special 4th of July Cake. I don't know if we have WFBOOM here on the West Coast, If I come across one of those cakes you mentioned
it will be going in my basket. We have BOOMCITY in Marysville WA. ( a swap-meet of over 500 Fireworks Vendors). I guess we are not Lucky enough to have a WFBOOM.
Maybe WFBOOM should build a NEW FIREWORKS WAREHOUSE next the NEW WALMART going up. :D
" I have like 14 more CONSUMER FIREWORKS I DISLIKE Videos " for CYNTHYAFIREWORKS :confused::o
" I also have a few of My Favorites That I do like " I just cant find the Video to post it on here.
Well one of them is a Girandola cake by MEAN MONKEY Brand. Its called Up something....... cant remember... Maybe CYNTHYAFIREWORKS can find it?
http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y498/fishfireworks/bth_UY3_zps2615db69.jpg?t=1371850811
http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y498/fishfireworks/bth_UY2_zps231b789e.jpg?t=1371850790
as you can see from the picture it has 2 girandolas and 14 comets
Please Comment and Enjoy.:eek:
cynthiafireworks
08-01-2013, 12:17 AM
Ya the effects are really nice on that one. I'll try and answer your questions the best I can. I believe it shoots a "peanut" type shell so it's a single tube that has a double break shell. I also believe it's a 1.75" tube. I hope that helps.
yes, it's very nice of you to answer my questions. It's helpful.
Actually I am here to learn english, some words about fireworks, I don't know how to express well in english and you natives, of course can blunt out naturally. I hope all friends here won't mind if my asking you some even very "shallow" questions.... Thank you all at first! :-P
cynthiafireworks
08-01-2013, 12:22 AM
Sometimes, the consumer fireworks has to be kept in safe and stable, so the designs are various. I guess there might be some one think the fountains as below designs are scam....:)
cynthiafireworks
08-01-2013, 12:23 AM
Sometimes, the consumer fireworks has to be kept in safe and stable, so the designs are various. I guess there might be some one think the fountains as below designs are scam.... 347348
PyroManiacs
08-01-2013, 12:55 AM
HI Pyromaniac1981 Hey do you prefer sound over display effect or do they go hand in hand? Do you have a Favorite consumer Cake?
I am already looking for that Special 4th of July Cake. I don't know if we have WFBOOM here on the West Coast, If I come across one of those cakes you mentioned
it will be going in my basket. We have BOOMCITY in Marysville WA. ( a swap-meet of over 500 Fireworks Vendors). I guess we are not Lucky enough to have a WFBOOM.
I do think sound and effect go hand in hand.
I did a little search and there is a place in WA. that carries some Glorious brand.
I see they have a 24shot Spirit by Glorious.
Also a Liberty Show, but now its called Liberty Parade.
Also, they have Tropical Typhoon and Blast Radius
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLdsVWkefEA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tYvInuuBIo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLAA01YYTMw
You should look into those cakes.
Check your inbox too.
I guess what the pictures showed is a small sized multi-shot cake(0.8“?) with a toy UFO, which can spin and fly into the sky with lights and whistling....It's an creative design, trust kids love this more than adults....
Actually... The girandola has become a lot more popular over the last two or three years. Heres some vids of huge ones from the PGI convention last year. Enjoy :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRMNs-qTm3k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDQKh4HTgS8
cynthiafireworks
08-01-2013, 01:03 AM
This Z style cake is really awesome as you said, with it's fantastic rhythem and the bright color stars. Since it's 210 shots, I guess the size of the inner tubes be less than 16mm. The thickness of the tube should be relatively thicker than common ones, for such high shooting speed, it then won't blowout or burnout. I have some other good videos for V shape and W,Fan shape, would like to share with you sometime in future.
I'm a big fan of Z or fan style cakes right now and this is one of the best ones I have seen. No breaks at all but the back and forth effect is pretty awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yomekd7rwEc
cynthiafireworks
08-01-2013, 01:08 AM
CafreakinBOOM, welcome to China and I will try to get you enough various items of fireworks to light , since you are so big fan to fireworks, then the cradle of fireworks, Liuyang city in China, you should never miss it.------------ "I LOVE FIREWORKS and I hope to visit China one day and Light some of those Big beautifull fireworks you mention. "
cynthiafireworks
08-02-2013, 10:53 PM
I like most of the items of multi shot cakes and fountains, for it's beautiful effects and safety, and the enjoyment it brings to us. Here I share a video which we Chinese usually light in any kind of festivals for celebration in our daily life. Welcome you all show your opinions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXdbZB7ll5w
PyroManiacs
08-02-2013, 11:17 PM
Very nice multi-shot. Correct me if Im wrong, but that has to be a professional cake by U.S. standards. What size are those tubes?
cynthiafireworks
08-02-2013, 11:37 PM
No, it's actually for common consumers in China, not a really professional one, and that is also my point! There's no distinctive difference between consumer & professional cakes, esp for export orders, all just per the customer requests.
The size of this cake is 30*36*250mm, 100 shot. Actually the actual visual effects are far more stunning and more impressive than the video.
Very nice multi-shot. Correct me if Im wrong, but that has to be a professional cake by U.S. standards. What size are those tubes?
cynthiafireworks
08-02-2013, 11:56 PM
But, according to AFSL, the single tube size bigger than 25mm or smaller than it has its real limitation.
usually whole chemical composition in a single shot should be less than 52Gram, so that's why common consumers in USA are not allowed to use a cake like the upper one which is very popular in our Chinese market and some area in south-eath Asia.
Welcome you put up more opinions with thanks! :)
Very nice multi-shot. Correct me if Im wrong, but that has to be a professional cake by U.S. standards. What size are those tubes?
PyroManiacs
08-03-2013, 12:54 AM
But, according to AFSL, the single tube size bigger than 25mm or smaller than it has its real limitation.
usually whole chemical composition in a single shot should be less than 52Gram, so that's why common consumers in USA are not allowed to use a cake like the upper one which is very popular in our Chinese market and some area in south-eath Asia.
Welcome you put up more opinions with thanks! :)
We most likely would still have to import those under 1.3G anyway. Our fireworks laws suck in the U.S..
josereyn74
08-03-2013, 09:55 PM
hi pyromaniac, if your referring to the combat zone cake as possibly a 1.3, it actually is a 1.4 consumer cake. the local firework store here sells it, and when I talked to the owner before the 4th, they were selling pretty quickly.
PyroManiacs
08-03-2013, 10:43 PM
Nope, I was referring to the Link cynthinafireworks posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXdbZB7ll5w
cynthiafireworks
08-04-2013, 08:46 PM
Yes, I agree with Josereyn74, even the one I posted is also belongs to the 1.4G category consumer fireworks. Just not suitable for US market for your regulation that the chemical composition of all combinations should be under 500Gram, or 200 grams depending on the tube size.
It's a pity!
PyroManiacs
08-05-2013, 03:38 PM
Even the one I posted is also belongs to the 1.4G category consumer fireworks. Just not suitable for US market for your regulation that the chemical composition of all combinations should be under 500Gram, or 200 grams depending on the tube size.
It's a pity!
I couldnt agree more Cynthia.
cynthiafireworks
08-05-2013, 10:13 PM
:o
But USA has so many spacious beach areas, I believe you enjoy the professional display of fireworks more!
PyroManiacs
08-09-2013, 08:27 PM
I have been to a few beach displays. Which I think are pretty cool.
I enjoy both Consumer and Professional displays almost equally since I can be involved in both types.
Here is a consumer show I helped another member of this forum with back in May.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwy2fEoVg6I
CafreakinBOOM
08-13-2013, 07:43 AM
:o
But USA has so many spacious beach areas, I believe you enjoy the professional display of fireworks more!
Yes cynthiafireworks. We do enjoy the professional displays. We as consumers enjoy lighting them more. If you know what the USA buys in consumer fireworks each year, you will know we LOVE lighting them.
I specially Love the Firework cake you posted called SNOWWHITE. Please make us some of those for consumer market.
Please show us some of the product (Fireworks) that are made in your company. We would like to see more.
CafreakinBOOM
08-13-2013, 07:45 AM
:cool::o:D;):p:rolleyes:
westcoastpyro
08-13-2013, 09:03 AM
I have been to a few beach displays. Which I think are pretty cool.
I enjoy both Consumer and Professional displays almost equally since I can be involved in both types.
Here is a consumer show I helped another member of this forum with back in May.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwy2fEoVg6I
Very nice show, all 1.4 hmm :rolleyes:
cynthiafireworks
08-13-2013, 10:02 PM
yes, i got the impression that United States spent around $600 million in fireworks a year, about $400 million of it is spent on 1.4G consumer fireworks. Even we all know that US market is getting harder and harder to explore, I still knew it's quite an awesome figure for providers like us, but actually we offer our direct customer for big orders like $0.21/shot, for the effect like "Snowwhite" you like, and that is exactly made in our factory. If you want to see them in US consumer market, we just need to make the cake smaller and cut the shots of a combination and reserve the same effects of every tubes, trying to meet US market and AFSL etc.
Yes cynthiafireworks. We do enjoy the professional displays. We as consumers enjoy lighting them more. If you know what the USA buys in consumer fireworks each year, you will know we LOVE lighting them.
I specially Love the Firework cake you posted called SNOWWHITE. Please make us some of those for consumer market.
Please show us some of the product (Fireworks) that are made in your company. We would like to see more. -----------For more videos, you can visit my youtube list, most of them are made from our own factory, and we also have so many toys and confetties we did't uploaded.
cynthiafireworks
08-13-2013, 10:09 PM
Even I want you share more videos with you guys here, but the internet connection is not so strong as alwasy...Sometimes we're totally forbidden to connect with ........:(
PyroManiacs
08-13-2013, 11:10 PM
yes, i got the impression that United States spent around $600 million in fireworks a year, about $400 million of it is spent on 1.4G consumer fireworks.
I can see that information came in handy. :)
Very nice show, all 1.4 hmm :rolleyes:
You are correct sir! :)
cynthiafireworks
08-13-2013, 11:29 PM
:D Thanks Gene! I never doubt the correctness of those figures, but I want to discuss with you more details.
CafreakinBOOM
10-21-2013, 01:27 AM
Cynthia My Sister where are you? Will you post some more Videos of those wonderful Fireworks made at your Factory. Please :)
PyroManiacs
10-21-2013, 07:57 AM
It HAS been a while, I agree.
CafreakinBOOM
12-25-2013, 04:18 AM
Its been a while and I have not seen any Posts from My Sister CYNTHIA....... PyroManiac1981 have you? I hope she did not "Blow Up" in the Factory....... LOL joke
Actually I have some pictures that I will be posting soon, from CYNTHIA at the Fireworks Convention...... I want to get the Story from her before I post......
HAPPY HOLLIDAYS PyroManiac1981.............HAPPY HOLLIDAYS CYNTHIA .........................
DAVE 'THANKS FOR A GREAT YEAR OF PYROTALK.COM" THE BEST FIREWORKS SITE IN THE WWW.
HAPPY HOLLIDAYS EVERYBODY........................DAVE THANKS FOR THE GREAT VIDEOS AND ALL YOU DO TO KEEP OUR FIREWORKS HOBBY ALIVE........."YOU MAKE IT SPARKLE"
PyroManiacs
12-25-2013, 10:56 PM
I am friends with her on Facebook.... I talk to her here and there but I been really busy to get into any detailed discussion about anything.
Happy Holidays to you as well BOOM! And the rest of the PyroTalk Community!!
gunner1
12-27-2013, 05:19 PM
This: I LIKE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-JhpuWvb5U
What's the name of this fountain? It's awesome!
CafreakinBOOM
12-28-2013, 04:32 AM
Its One of my favorite "fountains". 471 472473
Its called different names different places like suprise fountain. Sometimes they have the name, but actually be a "garden in spring, or a desert at night"
CafreakinBOOM
12-28-2013, 04:34 AM
3 more Days
PGH_Pyro
12-28-2013, 09:22 PM
zippers / speed-balls . such a simple fun giggle-inducing item .
CafreakinBOOM
12-30-2013, 05:34 AM
Here in this video You will see the 1st rocket has zippers / speed-balls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrQHMvW76Lo
I LIKE ZiPPERS too.
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